Subaru BRZ 70% manual take rate
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Subaru BRZ 70% manual take rate
This article is old news for the most part, but skip down to the "Manual Take Rate Percentages" section. It says 70% of Subaru BRZ sales have been stick - a high number, even if skewed by early adopter bias.
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012 ... oomed.html
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yeah, who the san hell would want an automatic BRZ, of the people who would want a BRZ??
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I agree, it should be a weekend warrior car, not a daily driver.potownrob wrote:yeah, who the san hell would want an automatic BRZ, of the people who would want a BRZ??
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Weekend warrior cars should not exist. If you own it, drive it.
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Why couldn't the BRZ be a daily driver? Looks pretty normal to me.
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I think a big part of the reason for the high take rate is that the automatic transmission on the FR-S/BRZ sucks. Although it does have considerably higher fuel economy ratings when equipped with the automatic, the car is a lot faster with the manual transmission. For a sporty little car like that, I think it's performance is barely adequate with the manual transmission and unacceptable with the slush. Keep in mind that I've never driven one though, I'm just going by the published numbers.
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Well...true I guess its all on how you value it.watkins wrote:Weekend warrior cars should not exist. If you own it, drive it.
If I owned two cars with the BRZ being one of them and a camry or taurus being the other I wouldn't be driving the BRZ everyday. Maybe that's how I should have stated it.
It could be...but would you want to park that in the city? or in a crowded parking garage?Tups wrote:Why couldn't the BRZ be a daily driver? Looks pretty normal to me.
all i'm saying is I wouldn't want to park that in a parking garage with cars really close. That's my opinion. Infact even in my beater I hate to park close to people in fear of people hitting it. I mean its damage to my property.
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I agree with you. Lots of people are buying those cars as weekend cars. There are also lots of people using them as daily drivers too. Works just fine either way.....bk7794 wrote:Well...true I guess its all on how you value it.watkins wrote:Weekend warrior cars should not exist. If you own it, drive it.
If I owned two cars with the BRZ being one of them and a camry or taurus being the other I wouldn't be driving the BRZ everyday. Maybe that's how I should have stated it.
It could be...but would you want to park that in the city? or in a crowded parking garage?Tups wrote:Why couldn't the BRZ be a daily driver? Looks pretty normal to me.
all i'm saying is I wouldn't want to park that in a parking garage with cars really close. That's my opinion. Infact even in my beater I hate to park close to people in fear of people hitting it. I mean its damage to my property.
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Doesn't that apply to any new car, or any car in good condition?bk7794 wrote:all i'm saying is I wouldn't want to park that in a parking garage with cars really close. That's my opinion. Infact even in my beater I hate to park close to people in fear of people hitting it. I mean its damage to my property.
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well for me its anything. But I guess the general consensus is any car in good condition.Tups wrote:Doesn't that apply to any new car, or any car in good condition?bk7794 wrote:all i'm saying is I wouldn't want to park that in a parking garage with cars really close. That's my opinion. Infact even in my beater I hate to park close to people in fear of people hitting it. I mean its damage to my property.
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I'm with watkins. You get all excited about getting this great car, you love driving it and spending time in it, you pour all your money and leisure time into it, but then you let it rot in your yard or garage all the time while you spend most of your time/miles driving a washing machine or refrigerator to work. I drive my favorite car to work every day; my commute is time that I enjoy rather than time I'm doing like prison time.bk7794 wrote:If I owned two cars with the BRZ being one of them and a camry or taurus being the other I wouldn't be driving the BRZ everyday. Maybe that's how I should have stated it.
Insurance can repair it when some jerk whacks it in the parking lot. Nothing can replace the hard time you did while miserably driving an appliance and dreaming of the car you love.
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And the flip side of the argument:
Many "weekend cars" aren't really suited for the daily commuting grind, especially if your weekend car is a high-performance machine. For example, a car that is intended to be a handling champ will often have a stiff ride that can punish occupants when driven over typical city roads and/or used for general commuting. Those kind of cars make more sense when used for driving pleasure as opposed to a basic transportation appliance.
Another factor is longevity. A weekend car is driven by choice, not by demand. So if the weather is crappy or the roads are salty, for example, the weekend car can stay out of the elements. And we all know that salt corrodes cars from the inside out, so if you want to keep your car forever, keeping it out off those salty roads during the winter season is a big help.
Those are just two reasons why some people may want to keep a car intended for weekend fun. When I had my M3, it was basically a semi-weekend car. I rarely used it to get to work, but I drove it pretty much all weekend long. During the winter months, it stayed in the garage whenever the roads were salty. I put far more miles on that car driving for pleasure than I did driving because I had to be somewhere. Honestly, I don't think I would have enjoyed the car as much if it was my only car and I had to use it every day.
Many "weekend cars" aren't really suited for the daily commuting grind, especially if your weekend car is a high-performance machine. For example, a car that is intended to be a handling champ will often have a stiff ride that can punish occupants when driven over typical city roads and/or used for general commuting. Those kind of cars make more sense when used for driving pleasure as opposed to a basic transportation appliance.
Another factor is longevity. A weekend car is driven by choice, not by demand. So if the weather is crappy or the roads are salty, for example, the weekend car can stay out of the elements. And we all know that salt corrodes cars from the inside out, so if you want to keep your car forever, keeping it out off those salty roads during the winter season is a big help.
Those are just two reasons why some people may want to keep a car intended for weekend fun. When I had my M3, it was basically a semi-weekend car. I rarely used it to get to work, but I drove it pretty much all weekend long. During the winter months, it stayed in the garage whenever the roads were salty. I put far more miles on that car driving for pleasure than I did driving because I had to be somewhere. Honestly, I don't think I would have enjoyed the car as much if it was my only car and I had to use it every day.
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We had someone come in trying to get an FRS with an automatic. She waited for around a month, called a bunch of places, and no one had any. She finally settled on the manual for it because she really wanted the car. And downside of that car, which kind of goes with Shadow's argument, is that it uses premium octanes. So for a daily driver, it would be more expensive than most other vehicles just based on that.
... and the fact that they've had some computer issues with the car.. but whatever...
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The car is never the same once its hit. Then again there is no guarantee on not getting hit on the weekend as well.theholycow wrote:I'm with watkins. You get all excited about getting this great car, you love driving it and spending time in it, you pour all your money and leisure time into it, but then you let it rot in your yard or garage all the time while you spend most of your time/miles driving a washing machine or refrigerator to work. I drive my favorite car to work every day; my commute is time that I enjoy rather than time I'm doing like prison time.bk7794 wrote:If I owned two cars with the BRZ being one of them and a camry or taurus being the other I wouldn't be driving the BRZ everyday. Maybe that's how I should have stated it.
Insurance can repair it when some jerk whacks it in the parking lot. Nothing can replace the hard time you did while miserably driving an appliance and dreaming of the car you love.
Also what if its a convertible? I wouldn't want the Sun beating down on the top or the interior making it faded and deteriorated. Of course some days if I was in that circumstance I would drive it, but I sure wouldn't drive it everyday.
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Why get a weekend-car and a daily-grind car when you can have the best of both worlds??? The CTS-V comes to mind
And cow is right. Why have a car when you can't enjoy it? I would be driving my CTS-V every time something is more than a stone's-throw away.
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And cow is right. Why have a car when you can't enjoy it? I would be driving my CTS-V every time something is more than a stone's-throw away.
You guys must be sick of me by now. .