Errors...

wannabe · Post by **wannabe** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:15 pm

i was surfing standardshift via cell phone the otherday, and i got a 502 error....

DeHackEd · Post by **DeHackEd** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:19 pm

They're back. I got one (500 ISE) earlier today and general lag accessing pages sometimes.

comingbackdown · Post by **comingbackdown** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:20 am

I got blasted with like, ten of them yesterday or day before... Ten in a row. Every page I opened, *WHAM!* 500 ISE...

wannabe · Post by **wannabe** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:12 am

comingbackdown wrote:I got blasted with like, ten of them yesterday or day before... Ten in a row. Every page I opened, *WHAM!* 500 ISE...

*points and laughs*

sry.

haven't gotten any 550ISE's today...thankfully!

Thet'iko Nexaris · Post by **Thet'iko Nexaris** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:56 am

Still getting lots of 500 errors.

StrangeWill · Post by **StrangeWill** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:28 am

Set up some kind of error 500 reporting?

500 Errors can be caused by any part of the PHP script D:

comingbackdown · Post by **comingbackdown** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:57 am

I got slammed with them last night. About 5-8 page refreshes did the trick...

DeHackEd · Post by **DeHackEd** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:36 am

The cause is most likely PHP not responding to the web server's request for a page load. When scripts don't behave, you get 500 ISE errors.

Two things I want to say. The first is that refreshing frequently is probably the worst thing you could do. The site is probably under some kind of heavy load and refreshing is only making things worse. Secondly, the Search button on the top is back to PHP's normal operation.

Not knowing about the details of the hosting back end, it could be another site hosted on the same machine ruining things for everybody.

StrangeWill · Post by **StrangeWill** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:04 pm

DeHackEd wrote:The cause is most likely PHP not responding to the web server's request for a page load. When scripts don't behave, you get 500 ISE errors.

Two things I want to say. The first is that refreshing frequently is probably the worst thing you could do. The site is probably under some kind of heavy load and refreshing is only making things worse. Secondly, the Search button on the top is back to PHP's normal operation.

Not knowing about the details of the hosting back end, it could be another site hosted on the same machine ruining things for everybody.

Yeah but it can be ANY number of things, hence 500 error logs is going to be a must. Of course PHPBB is known for it's wonderful error handling and utmost ability to handle heavy loads.

black94boost · Post by **black94boost** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:28 pm

vBulletin is a good php forum. Maybe an upgrade in the future?

DeHackEd · Post by **DeHackEd** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:19 pm

vBulletin isn't cheap, as I hear it. phpBB may be the bomb (and I mean that in a bad way) but the price is right.

The thing about logging 500 errors is it won't do you any good. The PHP is doing its job as best it can. Something's holding it back. The only way to be sure is to put tracers into the code to report its progress and see where it jams. And on a fully working and busy site like, say, this one, that's gonna cause more problems than it solves.

Can't think of a good reason for what's going wrong if SHOW FULL PROCESSLIST comes up empty, except for my previous Bad Neighbour theory.

black94boost · Post by **black94boost** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:26 pm

phpBB is free for personal use I think. At least, for me it is. vB is like $179-200 for personal use and more for commercial. Although, there are ways to get vB for free....

I'm not too familiar with php/mySQL. I'm more of a CGI/Perl guy.

NonChalant · Post by **NonChalant** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:32 pm

black94boost wrote:phpBB is free for personal use I think. At least, for me it is. vB is like $179-200 for personal use and more for commercial. Although, there are ways to get vB for free.... I'm not too familiar with php/mySQL. I'm more of a CGI/Perl guy.

CGI/Perl! This isn't the 90's anymore buddy!

hehehe just kidding

black94boost · Post by **black94boost** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:43 pm

NonChalant wrote:CGI/Perl! This isn't the 90's anymore buddy!

hehehe just kidding

Being a poor and cheap high school student, I only had free webhosts. And most free webhosts don't give you free mysql servers, so I couldn't/didn't want to learn it. And besides, I kind of taught myself some CGI/Perl, and I still use it, but not very much. I have since found a free host with php/mysql!!!

And now, I'm probably way too old for my brain to absorb material on php/mysql.

StrangeWill · Post by **StrangeWill** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:07 pm

DeHackEd wrote:vBulletin isn't cheap, as I hear it. phpBB may be the bomb (and I mean that in a bad way) but the price is right.

The thing about logging 500 errors is it won't do you any good. The PHP is doing its job as best it can. Something's holding it back. The only way to be sure is to put tracers into the code to report its progress and see where it jams. And on a fully working and busy site like, say, this one, that's gonna cause more problems than it solves.

Can't think of a good reason for what's going wrong if SHOW FULL PROCESSLIST comes up empty, except for my previous Bad Neighbour theory.

A full 500 error log should show the PHP file that caused the error, and the error that the PHP process threw (to be more exact, PHP4 doesn't really 'throw' errors, but you get the idea), much like running PHP files with error reporting on, or on a local machine, except it wont display possible security risks or exploits to the public.

Writing tracers for someone else's software thats thousands of lines of code would be a nightmare. I'd rather let the webserver log do it's job.

black94boost wrote:phpBB is free for personal use I think. At least, for me it is. vB is like $179-200 for personal use and more for commercial. Although, there are ways to get vB for free.... I'm not too familiar with php/mySQL. I'm more of a CGI/Perl guy.

PHPBB is free no matter what you use it for.

Maybe we can try SMF, it's free and I think it's better for high load boards. We can also try PHPBB 3, however I'm seeing HUGE load times on my server compared to IPB (pay for board, $150).

NonChalant wrote:
black94boost wrote:phpBB is free for personal use I think. At least, for me it is. vB is like $179-200 for personal use and more for commercial. Although, there are ways to get vB for free.... I'm not too familiar with php/mySQL. I'm more of a CGI/Perl guy.
CGI/Perl! This isn't the 90's anymore buddy!

hehehe just kidding

Alas I want to kind of learn CGI/Perl, it's more powerful and efficient than PHP apparently. However writing software and trying to distribute it and make it flexible and modular in a language almost no one uses is kind of difficult.