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Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Standardshifter » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:06 am

Tom and Ray answers questions about all of the [former] advantages of manual transmissions:

"Dear Tom and Ray: When I first learned to drive, a million years ago, my father (who knew nothing about cars) advised me to always drive a manual transmission because they handle better, are easier to repair, are cheaper, get better mileage, etc. Being an obedient daughter, I have owned and driven only manual-transmission cars all these years. Also, I needed the boost I got from the cool factor of a woman driving a stick shift (men are so transparent). But now I'm older and am tired of all that shifting.

I'm getting ready to trade in my 2003 Subaru Forester for a new one, and I want an automatic — but will I be losing out on all the good things, like control and economy? Or does that no longer really apply, with today's car engineering? I don't want to do anything that might make me any less cool than I already am. Can I make the switch? My father isn't around any longer to advise me, but I know he would trust the opinions of his favorite car guys. — Nina"

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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby theholycow » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:41 am

Their response is cogent and well reasoned.

She certainly shouldn't drive manual because she feels like she has to...it should be because she wants to.
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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Rope-Pusher » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:39 pm

theholycow wrote:Their response is cogent and well reasoned.

She certainly shouldn't drive manual because she feels like she has to...it should be because she wants to.

...and she has to wants to, right?

If it's forced on her, nature has a way of taking care of these thing, right?
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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby fr4n » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:45 pm

one reason is the boost from driving a manual

you automatically become a boss, specially in a place like USA where not many people drive manual.
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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Shadow » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:38 pm

The only point which I'd question is that a manual transmission car needs at least one clutch replacement during its life. That might be true for some cars, but not nearly all cars. If the car has been owned and driven by a competent driver, I'd say that just about any manual transmission car can go through life without ever needing a new clutch. It all depends on how well it has been driven. It is true that a clutch wears over time, but the wear is minimal compared to something like brake pads. So it is absolutely possible for a manual transmission to go several hundred thousand miles without needing a clutch replaced, which may very well be above and beyond the car's normal service life.
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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Squint » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:26 pm

Rope-Pusher wrote:
theholycow wrote:Their response is cogent and well reasoned.

She certainly shouldn't drive manual because she feels like she has to...it should be because she wants to.

...and she has to wants to, right?

If it's forced on her, nature has a way of taking care of these thing, right?

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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Shadow » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:58 pm

I'm guessing that he's making a reference to that idiot politician who said that a woman's body will reject a pregnancy that was a result of a "real" rape. I don't know exactly what he said, but I think that was the main idea. :lol:
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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Squint » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:00 pm

Shadow wrote:I'm guessing that he's making a reference to that idiot politician who said that a woman's body will reject a pregnancy that was a result of a "real" rape. I don't know exactly what he said, but I think that was the main idea. :lol:

“From what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare,” Akin said. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something, I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.”

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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Shadow » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:17 pm

First it was Al Gore inventing the Internet, and now this.... :lol:

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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby six » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:31 am

ANYWAY, before this starts getting out of hand...

My car has just surpassed 125,000 miles, and it's still on the original clutch. I'm the third owner. And the clutch is still going strong. I drive in city-traffic 97% of the time also.
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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Tups » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:13 pm

I'd say it's more common for a car to roll to the scrapyard with the original clutch than a replacement one.
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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby comawhite » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:34 pm

What about cars that are only available as a manual? Like the Honda S2000, Nissan Skyline, Ford Mustang GT500?

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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Squint » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:51 pm

comawhite wrote:What about cars that are only available as a manual? Like the Honda S2000, Nissan Skyline, Ford Mustang GT500?

She wouldn't have those available to her if she doesn't want a manual any more.. unless I'm not understanding what you're trying to point out.
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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby comawhite » Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:02 am

Squint wrote:
comawhite wrote:What about cars that are only available as a manual? Like the Honda S2000, Nissan Skyline, Ford Mustang GT500?

She wouldn't have those available to her if she doesn't want a manual any more.. unless I'm not understanding what you're trying to point out.


I was basically just saying that some cars are only available in manual. So, if you want one of those you will have to stick with manual and vice-versa on vehicles that are automatic only.

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Re: Dispelling myths about manual transmissions

Postby Squint » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:38 pm

That's true, though I would guess those numbers are dwindling a bit. I would be curious to see how many vehicles are available manual only now versus 10 or 20 years ago.
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