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He'za trollin, yo

Postby theholycow » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:38 pm

http://jalopnik.com/5952570/a-manual-tr ... al-with-it

He starts off making some good points about elitism and the many superior qualities of modern automatics (as I see it, inclusive of the entire variety of popular two-pedal transmissions), but then goes on a rant that's based on the faulty assumption that the only way to enjoy a car is to win races (and also that we can all afford a brand new GT-R for racing).
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Re: He'za trollin, yo

Postby Rope-Pusher » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:19 pm

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Re: He'za trollin, yo

Postby Shadow » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:30 pm

There's a fatal flaw in his argument. It is this: He's somehow trying to equate driving enjoyment with driving as fast as possible. No kidding that there are now faster options than a manual transmission. Anyone who is interested in getting every last 10th of a second out of a car's performance will probably choose a dual-clutch paddle shift over a manual transmission in most cases (I should say if it is even an option). But there's far more to driving enjoyment than going a couple of tenths faster with a paddle shifter over a stick shift. Sorry, but this guy just doesn't get it. His argument is weak.

The GTR is an awesome car. But you know what? The fact that it doesn't come with a stick makes me have no real interest in it. I think that car would be amazing with a nice 6-speed manual transmission. Who cares if it wouldn't be quite as fast?
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Re: He'za trollin, yo

Postby six » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:11 am

Shadow wrote:The GTR is an awesome car. But you know what? The fact that it doesn't come with a stick makes me have no real interest in it. I think that car would be amazing with a nice 6-speed manual transmission. Who cares if it wouldn't be quite as fast?

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As I said before, and I'll say it again, if the GTR came with a clutch pedal, there would be one sitting in my garage right now. The fact that it doesn't, I completely ignore the car. Call me an elitist all you want, but I do not want to spend upwards of $100k for a car that's fast, but not fun to drive (at least what I, and most likely everyone else here, define as "fun"). Sure, it might be exhilarating taking a GTR around a track once or twice, but that effect will wear off quickly if I have to drive that car around for any length of time. It would become boring.
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Re: He'za trollin, yo

Postby watkins » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:38 am

Every time I try to explain that to people they treat me like I have the plague. Clearly I have no idea what "fun" is. As if the fact that my vehicle of choice is a Viggen doesn't give away that I am not like most other people.
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