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Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Rope-Pusher » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:11 pm

The Jeep® brand introduced the all-new 2015 Renegade for the North America market at the New York International Auto Show.

The Renegade, which made its international debut last month at the Geneva International Motor Show, is an all-new, efficient, trail and urban-friendly size Jeep vehicle that is designed to take the growing, global small-SUV segment head-on with its beefy proportions and purposeful design elements.


Amish Renegades will be available.

Renegades will be a B-segment Jeep vehicle

Compass & Patriot are C-segment Jeep vehicles

Cherokee is a D-segment Jeep vehicle.
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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Shadow » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:58 pm

First the Cherokee and now this? Wow, Jeep is really starting to become a sell-out brand. I guess it was to be expected, considering fuel economy standards and all....specially when they had so many gas guzzlers in their model line-up.

But hey, at least they're offering them with a stick....even if they are uglier than an Aztec (the Cherokee, not the Renegade, which is ugly, but not nearly as ugly)
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Postby Rope-Pusher » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:25 pm

Shadow wrote:First the Cherokee and now this? Wow, Jeep is really starting to become a sell-out brand. I guess it was to be expected, considering fuel economy standards and all....specially when they had so many gas guzzlers in their model line-up.

But hey, at least they're offering them with a stick....even if they are uglier than an Aztec (the Cherokee, not the Renegade, which is ugly, but not nearly as ugly)

Fiat’s ‘Baby Jeep’ Strategy Pays Off

"The company said on Tuesday that it sold 15,940 Grand Cherokees in the U.S. last month, 26 percent more than a year earlier. Possibly more impressive, it sold almost as many Cherokee models, a stripped-down mini version of the Grand that first rolled out in October."

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... y-pays-off

Actually, the Cherokee is not a "Stripped-down mini version of the Grand" - totally different architecture and it can be had with all the birds and weasels, but the sales ARE doing very well. Imagine if a stick were offered in the North American market - they could claim mebbe 6 more sales per month?
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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Shadow » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:56 am

You can't fix ugly....at least not without a complete front-end restyle. LOL

Quite honestly, it does surprise me that anyone at all would buy one, considering how it looks. Then again, not all people care about the styling of the car they drive. Case in point:


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Postby Shadow » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:14 am

Here's a much more attractive front end on a vehicle (2014 Nissan Rogue) that competes in the CUV market:

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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Boston Fit » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:19 am

You're being much too harsh, Shadow. Granted, this thing won't be winning any beauty contests, but if it offers manual transmission paired with AWD, then it will have bragging rights over a Kia Soul or Nissan Juke at the local shopping mall. Hey, it's something! :-)


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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby IMBoring25 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:00 am

I don't know...I wouldn't call it an especially GOOD-looking vehicle, but the Renegade doesn't make me ask, "What were they thinking?" as the Cherokee, Juke, and Aztek do.

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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Shadow » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:01 am

Boston Fit wrote:You're being much too harsh, Shadow. Granted, this thing won't be winning any beauty contests, but if it offers manual transmission paired with AWD, then it will have bragging rights over a Kia Soul or Nissan Juke at the local shopping mall. Hey, it's something! :-)


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Like I said, it's obviously a good thing that they have a stick shift available. My issues is with the extremely ugly styling. Actually, the pic of the Renegade you posted is probably the best picture I've seen yet. But the Cherokee is hopeless....
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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Boston Fit » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:53 am

On balance I very much agree with you. Not a looker, this car. At least it comes with a cheesy grille logo hidden in every nook and cranny!
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Postby Rope-Pusher » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:12 pm

Shadow wrote:
Boston Fit wrote:You're being much too harsh, Shadow. Granted, this thing won't be winning any beauty contests, but if it offers manual transmission paired with AWD, then it will have bragging rights over a Kia Soul or Nissan Juke at the local shopping mall. Hey, it's something! :-)


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Like I said, it's obviously a good thing that they have a stick shift available. My issues is with the extremely ugly styling. Actually, the pic of the Renegade you posted is probably the best picture I've seen yet. But the Cherokee is hopeless....

but the sales ARE doing very well.

Apparently there are a lot of customers who like the looks of the Cherokee.
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There were a lot of people saying the 1994 Ram pick-m-up was ugly, but again sales showed that there were plenty of people who did like their looks.
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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Shadow » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:37 pm

Rope-Pusher wrote:Apparently there are a lot of customers who like the looks of the Cherokee.


Or maybe there are a lot of customers who really don't care very much about the styling of their car. Toyota sells/leases lots of Prii (I've always preferred "Priuses", but Toyota said "no" LOL) and those aren't exactly beautiful vehicles either. Ugly cars sell as long as there's something about them that sets them apart. In the case of the Cherokee, I think the big selling point is the 4wd system and the ability that goes along with that. In the world of softroader CUVs, the Cherokee seems to stand out for that reason.
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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Shadow » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:39 pm

For the record, I've always liked the styling of the Ram pickup. It's always looked better than its Ford & Chevy competitors. The styling element that I've always liked is the way the hood is raised above the fenders, sort of in that big rig kinda way.....
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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Rope-Pusher » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:15 pm

Shadow wrote:For the record, I've always liked the styling of the Ram pickup. It's always looked better than its Ford & Chevy competitors. The styling element that I've always liked is the way the hood is raised above the fenders, sort of in that big rig kinda way.....

The original design proposal for the Ram was bland, like a big version of the original Dakota. They decided it wasn't going to offend anyone, but it also wasn't going to be a strong attraction to anyone. That's when they decided to go for something that people would either like or dislike. That was that big-rig look.

I see the Cherokee styling as being attractive to some, but not to everyone. It doesn't hurt that it's been judged to have one of the 10 best interiors by WardsAuto.

http://wardsauto.com/wards-10-best-inte ... -interiors
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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby AHTOXA » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:12 am

I'm not a Jeep fanboi, but I'm a Jeep fan. That really isn't a Jeep any more, Yeah, yeah, I know they said that when the square lights YJ came out and then later when the TJ went to coil suspension, but at it's core, the Jeep retained it's purpose back in those days. Granted, I understand why they did it with this model.

I like that gen Ram, too.
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Re: Amish Renegades Invade New York!

Postby Shadow » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:26 pm

Rope-Pusher wrote:The original design proposal for the Ram was bland, like a big version of the original Dakota. They decided it wasn't going to offend anyone, but it also wasn't going to be a strong attraction to anyone. That's when they decided to go for something that people would either like or dislike. That was that big-rig look.



I've always liked the styling of the Dakota too. They had that raised hood look to them too, but to a lesser extent as compared to the Ram. BTW, this was one of my favorites, despite the fact that I'm not into the sport truck thing:

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