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IMBoring25 wrote:Youth brands don't seem to fare well...Plymouth, Pontiac, Mercury (yeah, I know, they didn't exactly hit the youth demo they were targeting), now Scion...
InlinePaul wrote:The driving force of new fangled features to sell more cars [is to] cater to the masses' abject laziness!
plymouth was a youth brand?!? i always thought it was just there for people who refused to drive a dodgeIMBoring25 wrote:Youth brands don't seem to fare well...Plymouth, Pontiac, Mercury (yeah, I know, they didn't exactly hit the youth demo they were targeting), now Scion...
watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD
InlinePaul wrote:The driving force of new fangled features to sell more cars [is to] cater to the masses' abject laziness!
watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD
InlinePaul wrote:The driving force of new fangled features to sell more cars [is to] cater to the masses' abject laziness!
back in the say, when scion was new (or newer), i was considering a scion tC. i thought it was cool that you could personalize it on their website (and possibly order it online?? i forget), and that big glass moonroof was cool. i was comparing it to a 4 cylinder accord coupe of its vintage (~2003-2005 i think), and was having a hard time choosing between them. ultimately, i ended up getting another used car instead. the 2nd gen tC and other models were kinda unimpressive, but i was also older when they came out. if the FRS can't make it as a Toyota, then I'm not sure how it made it as a Scion. I also miss the real Celicas.Teamwork wrote:My first memory of Scion was back in 2005 inside a Circuit City which has gone the way of the wind as well. They had two cars parked inside the store (the first gen TC and xB) and I remember thinking to myself that these cars didn't even look like real life cars that you could drive on the street but production concepts. I didn't really know it was the division of Toyota until I looked further into it. I've experienced the 1st generation of the TC, xB, and xA and the only one which I thought wasn't that great was the xA which was basically a 4 dr Echo. The 2nd generation of every car they had from inception was a noticeable step sideways (but mostly backwards) and the newly introduced vehicles like the iQ were pretty much answers to questions that were never asked.
I feel that this brand ran the same route as GM with Saturn... something that started out really hot and fizzled quickly without any reinforcements from the mother brand. Some of the interviews in regards to Scion's last day really show how clueless executives at Toyota were and still are. I would easily want to own an iA as an every day commuter car but that's pretty much Mazda's creation. They said the FRS name plate has too much brand equity to change when it becomes a Toyota but... more than GT86?
potownrob wrote:back in the say, when scion was new (or newer), i was considering a scion tC. i thought it was cool that you could personalize it on their website (and possibly order it online?? i forget), and that big glass moonroof was cool. i was comparing it to a 4 cylinder accord coupe of its vintage (~2003-2005 i think), and was having a hard time choosing between them. ultimately, i ended up getting another used car instead. the 2nd gen tC and other models were kinda unimpressive, but i was also older when they came out. if the FRS can't make it as a Toyota, then I'm not sure how it made it as a Scion. I also miss the real Celicas.
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