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Silverado wrote:Watkins and Wannabe = neighboors/friends?
no/yes. From here
mad_finn wrote:Thankyou for buying a car wich has been manufactured in Finland :D
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RITmusic2k wrote:Watkins, she looks like she's in great shape. You thinking about a round of preventative maintenance yet, or does she seem to run well in current condition?
New DIC and some el-cheapo plugs at the moment. Ive been running a whole 32oz of Lucas fuel injector cleaner through the engine over the past several tanks and Im going to Seafoam it and do an oil change soon. Ill also be putting some NGKs back in like it had once upon a time. Ive already replaced the vac lines, since they were more dust than line. MAF (f*cking shitty hunk of nonsense) needs a cleaning as well.
Silverado wrote:How did you get that bottom picture? Is it parked on a turn, or did someone else take it? Awesome car.
Tony was driving. I was riding in the Rabbit with Vlad driving at the time. Stuck my hand and suicideifIdroppedit camera out the window as we were flying along at maybe 70mph
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Silverado wrote:Watkins and Wannabe = neighboors/friends?
friends only. he lives in RI/MASS and i live in MI. too far to be neighbors
i just spent 4ish days with him in WV...hence all the pics i have of it...
Silverado wrote:Watkins and Wannabe = boyfriend and girlfriend?
he's engaged.
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Congrats on the new ride :D . Looks really nice in blue.
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Thats a nice hatch and a nice blue at that. What year so I can look up the specs should I ever come up on one on the road lol.

EDIT: must be a 99-02 I assume? The 230 hp version?
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How fast is it? lol. I guess low 14's. Maybe 13's.
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Danger_Ranger wrote:EDIT: must be a 99-02 I assume? The 230 hp version?
If I remember correctly from the other thread, this one was a '99, which makes it the 225hp version. '00-'02 got some intake piping and ECU modifications that bumped them up to 230. Too little a difference to be noticeable, especially since many a Vig rolled out of the factory making lots more power than they were rated for.

But Viggens are much more formidable than their horsepower ratings suggest; they make about 260ft-lbs. of torque from 2500rpm and up... All you need to know is that if you're already traveling at highway speeds, not many cars out there can catch one :twisted:
Leedeth wrote:How fast is it? lol. I guess low 14's. Maybe 13's.
Despite what I said above about being formidable, they're not set up to be drag racers. Being FWD, open diff, and torque-limited in lower gears, these things don't have much capability off the line. It's about a 15 second car in stock trim. There are a couple Saabs out there pulling 12s and 13s at the drag strip, but they're all pushing north of 450hp to do it.
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But it's turbocharged...it should be quite fast. Why not?
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i think it's cool how watkins broke the news via the SS meaet. nice ride man!! do you miss the convertible??
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Leedeth wrote:But it's turbocharged...it should be quite fast. Why not?
Here's why:
RITmusic2k wrote:FWD, open diff, and torque-limited in lower gears
More generally, because Saab engineers weren't interested in building a drag racer and the Saab marketing department probably doesn't want it to get the wrong reputation. Those Saabers are weird, y'know. They'd probably be offended to see a Saab race a pony car.
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potownrob wrote:i think it's cool how watkins broke the news via the SS meaet. nice ride man!! do you miss the convertible??
he has a sun roof...so he could still technically have the top down...
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theholycow wrote:More generally, because Saab engineers weren't interested in building a drag racer and the Saab marketing department probably doesn't want it to get the wrong reputation. Those Saabers are weird, y'know. They'd probably be offended to see a Saab race a pony car.
Saab engineers have actually historically gone after supercars and passing power. You know, the stuff you actually need in the real world. Take the old 9000 Aero and its ability to blast past an assortment of contemporary supercars 50-100mph.

Besides, drag racing is for those to droll to understand the concept of a corner, of which there are plenty in Sweden if Im not mistaken.
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wannabe wrote:
potownrob wrote:i think it's cool how watkins broke the news via the SS meaet. nice ride man!! do you miss the convertible??
he has a sun roof...so he could still technically have the top down...
Thats not down. The moon roof - as it technically is - goes up or back, but never down.

That said, I lost interest in a convertible DD. Id love another one in the future for a summer fun toy, but the leaking and freezing concerns always bothered me.
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watkins wrote:
wannabe wrote:
potownrob wrote:i think it's cool how watkins broke the news via the SS meaet. nice ride man!! do you miss the convertible??
he has a sun roof...so he could still technically have the top down...
Thats not down. The moon roof - as it technically is - goes up or back, but never down.
true.
watkins wrote: That said, I lost interest in a convertible DD. Id love another one in the future for a summer fun toy, but the leaking and freezing concerns always bothered me.
don't blame you...
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watkins wrote:Saab engineers have actually historically gone after supercars and passing power. You know, the stuff you actually need in the real world. Take the old 9000 Aero and its ability to blast past an assortment of contemporary supercars 50-100mph.
In the real world, it's far more common that I need to go 20-70mph entering the highway, or 0-60mph turning left from my street onto the major road than it is for me to need to go 50-100mph.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not downing the Saab for its relatively lackluster drag racing performance, and my car is no speed demon but works fine in the real world for me...my whole point was that it doesn't drag race well because that was not a design goal.
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It absolutely wasnt. Saab focused on more real world situations. Its all in midrange power. 2nd from 20mph will fling you right into traffic with more ease than most other cars, for example
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