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Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby theholycow » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:05 pm

Edit 2011-08-15: If you're new to this thread, good luck...it's really long and boring. See also my photo albums, videos, and other links about the car:
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This project is named as such:
Christine - like the Stephen King book/movie. Wife named the car that because she hits her head getting in it every time.
slo - It's going to be the opposite of fast.
Hack - Obvious.
enstein - As in Frankenstein ("That's Fronkenshteen!")
berg - My Jewish grandfather bought it brand new, and I'm doing this project very cheaply (and am partially motivated by money).

Car: 1980 Buick LeSabre Limited 4.1 V6 TH350 auto. Grandpa bought it new. It's got ~38,000 miles on it. The carburetor has given me quite a bit of trouble. Everything else is great.

Plan: Install a T5 from a Chevy S10. The S10 T5 has its shifter in a position that's compatible with my bench seat.

I acquired the S10 donor truck already. Anyone wanna buy a 2.2L I4? Starts right up, runs strong, surprisingly torquey.

Expected difficulties: Too many and too detailed to list, at the moment. I'll clear some of them up after I drop both transmissions.
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby theholycow » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:07 pm

What's this rusty thing on my TH350's passenger side?
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What's this rusty thing on my TH350's driver side?
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I'm pretty sure this is the speedometer takeoff on my T5. Is that for electronic or mechanical speedometer?
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Edit: I think that's mechanical. That could be a huge lucky break for me, making it plug-and-play. OTOH that also may mean I have no idea what transmission it is (since it's definitely not original to the 1994 S10)...hope it has ratios I'll like.
Edit 2: Confirmed. http://www.customclassictrucks.com/tech ... to_04.html
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby LHOswald » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:02 pm

just hack the shit out of everything on the auto transmission. as long as your not gonna need it, and your not gonna damage anything else...who cares?
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby theholycow » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:29 am

The TH350 is worth some money (drag racers love 'em) so I'm not going to destroy it. Anyway, the stuff I posted was just about learning...I can't help but wonder WTF those things are.
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby Rope-Pusher » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:47 am

theholycow wrote:The TH350 is worth some money (drag racers love 'em) so I'm not going to destroy it. Anyway, the stuff I posted was just about learning...I can't help but wonder WTF those things are.

That rusty thang was the external sex organ of a turbohydramatic 350. I would say that it hasn't mated in many years. Cover yore arse when you crawl under the car.
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby DKaz » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:47 am

Nice, good luck! Will the T5 be able to handle all that extra power?
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby LHOswald » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:23 pm

a t56 would've been better...but definitely much more work and much more money
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby 94Corolla5Speed » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:28 pm

You should grab a few bottles of engine brite and go nuts on the engine bay and under it. It will make your life so much easier when all that grease is off.

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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby theholycow » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:58 pm

I identified the thingies:

- The one on the passenger side is the Transmission Modulator (could it have a more generic name?). It's the thing that adjusts shift points based on vacuum, so that it shifts at low RPM when you're easy on the gas and high RPM when you're laying on it hard.

- The one on the drivers side is the governor. Its job is to force the shift at high RPM if you're running WOT or if the modulator's broken.

On power:
The 4.1 is rated: 125 hp (93 kW) @ 4000 rpm 205 lb·ft (278 N·m) @ 2000 rpm
The 2.2 is rated: 118 hp (88 kW) 138 lb·ft (187 N·m)
So, yeah, it is a lot more torque for the tranny to handle. Common reports on performance forums say that the basic T5 (not the "World Class" series that is tougher) is good for around 200 lb-ft...and that's for guys who are beating on it. It ought to be fine for me. I would be ecstatic if it lasts 40,000 miles, and I won't be too disappointed if it fails after 15,000 miles.

On T56's: I would JIMP. I would need to change the 2.73 rear end on the car for that, though.

On degreasing: You are correct, sir. I intend to do some degreasing. I have a gallon of purple degreaser somewhere that I'll probably try using with a pressure washer, but buying Engine-Brite is not out of the question.
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby watkins » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:19 pm

Purple Power is god!
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby DKaz » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:23 pm

It seems the T5s were used in the 85 and 86 Chevy Astros with the 4.3L V6 producing 200HP, not sure about torque, but it'll probably be fine.
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby theholycow » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:47 pm

Wikipedia says those 4.3's were good for 230 ft-lb in their 155hp configuration. I bet the 200hp had at least as much torque, probably a lot more.

The stronger "World Class" T5 didn't come out until 1988, so those Astros had a T5 of similar rating as mine. As I suspected, I ought to be fine.
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby Rope-Pusher » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:20 pm

theholycow wrote:Wikipedia says those 4.3's were good for 230 ft-lb in their 155hp configuration. I bet the 200hp had at least as much torque, probably a lot more.

The stronger "World Class" T5 didn't come out until 1988, so those Rastros had a T5 of similar rating as mine. As I suspected, I ought to be fine.

Rastro? Rusn't he a rog, Reorge?
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby theholycow » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:32 pm

Not all Rastros are Rogs. I'd guess those 200hp 4.3's were pretty peppy...and then there's this:
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Re: Project Christine slo Hackensteinberg

Postby Chris H. » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:42 pm

theholycow wrote:Not all Rastros are Rogs. I'd guess those 200hp 4.3's were pretty peppy...and then there's this:



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