Let the Chef be the Chief?

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What are your feelings on settable modes?

No settings - Hey Automaker, Why Don't You Hit Me With Your Best Shot?
2
33%
Three Settings, Eco, Sport and Normal (Default)
2
33%
Ala Burger King - Have it your way - Everything that could possibly be electronically tunable is waiting for you to screw up!
2
33%
 
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Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby Rope-Pusher » Sun May 21, 2017 10:56 am

How Many Modes are necessary?



When I eat at a restaurant, especially a "Good One", I trust the food will be prepared properly and I don't even add salt or pepper. (Maybe it helps that I'm not fussy). Should a car have "settings"? If so, how many settings should a car have? Shouldn't I just trust the suspension engineer to release the design that he feels is best? Who am I touche I know better than him?

Talk amongst yourselves.

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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby Rope-Pusher » Sun May 21, 2017 10:59 am

Wow, so far 100% agree with me!
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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby theholycow » Sun May 21, 2017 11:40 am

One size does NOT fit all.

Sometimes I want to micromanage everything my car does. Sometimes I don't care. User-configurable modes aren't just for geeks like me who enjoy meddling with the workings, but they certainly are great for us. There are also more normal people who don't want to micromanage but do want different modes for different conditions; soft and gentle for hauling grandma or the kids, medium for the commute, and hardcore for the weekend.

They're also for selling the car to multiple people. Maybe my wife and I are buying a car and she wants it one way while I want it the other. No need for compromise, just like memory power seats/mirrors, press a button and get what you want.

They're also for selling the car to a wider market, and presumably they make it possible to reduce the complexity of option packages/choices. Joe Schmoe likes the Bovine Mooer Sport, while Long Duck Dong likes the Bovine Mooer Luxury; the dealer could stock the same car for both (in a variety of colors) of them if selecting a setting makes the difference, and the manufacturer doesn't need to make multiple versions (and if anyone knows the costs and complications involved I bet you do, RP). If you're shopping for a car and like the Bovine Mooer Sport but wish it had a softer ride, the dealer might have to stock or locate a Bovine Mooer Luxury and have you test drive that -- only to find out you don't like the lighter steering effort. With user-configurable modes and such, one car could be sold to all of those folks.

That same issue applies especially to sports cars and other cars with attention-grabbing looks. Some people want to buy the car for its performance. Some just want to look cool; but if it operates like a hardcore performance machine they won't want to drive it.

My mom buys the sort of car with tons of modes and adjustments an gewgaws. I love that stuff. I wish she'd keep a car long enough that it won't be worth much anymore and she can give it to me instead of trading it in. :lol: (Or, at least, long enough that I could afford it.)

My dad absolutely abhors it. He dreads having to move her car. Also my sister has a relatively recent Grand Cherokee with one of those modern shift-by-wire slushboxen whose selector is more like a joystick than a shifter, you hold or multi-push it or something to go past each range instead of physically pushing it to different positions for P R N D etc...he hates that too. (I hate it but for different reasons, which I've described before.)
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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby Rope-Pusher » Sun May 21, 2017 12:15 pm

theholycow wrote:

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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby AHTOXA » Mon May 22, 2017 7:35 pm

I have mixed feelings on this. In cars, I really could care less for different driving modes. Granted, I don't too much experience with them, but playing with it in some cars - they felt gimmicky.

On motorcycles, however, they are great. Big adventure bikes can come with a lot of power, and it is a good thing to manage modes. Different modes give different level of ABS engagement, as well as stability and power control. If this motorcycle is ridden on dirt roads, snowy or wet roads, then those modes are a great safety addition.
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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby Rope-Pusher » Mon May 22, 2017 9:05 pm

Was it BOSE that worked to integrate their audio entertainment systems into vehicle designs such that they adjusted the system to match the accoustics of the vehicle and then reduced the amount of controls available to the listener? To me, that's like the Chef saying "Trust me, I know what tastes good. Please don't add ketchup to your osso bucco"
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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby potownrob » Tue May 23, 2017 7:26 am

where did all this customization talk come from?? eco, normal and power mode FTW!! :) (which company did eye just steel that from??)
BUT DEM FAHGLEITZ!! :shock:

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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby Rope-Pusher » Tue May 23, 2017 10:16 am

potownrob wrote:where did all this customization talk come from?? eco, normal and power mode FTW!! :) (which company did eye just steel that from??)

Autoweek magazine posed the question:
http://autoweek.com/article/technology/ ... dailydrive
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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby potownrob » Wed May 24, 2017 6:44 am

Rope-Pusher wrote:
potownrob wrote:where did all this customization talk come from?? eco, normal and power mode FTW!! :) (which company did eye just steel that from??)

Autoweek magazine posed the question:
http://autoweek.com/article/technology/ ... dailydrive
ewe no howe eye feal aboot the media pudding thaws in two are heads, know??
BUT DEM FAHGLEITZ!! :shock:

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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby Rope-Pusher » Wed May 24, 2017 7:29 am

potownrob wrote:
Rope-Pusher wrote:
potownrob wrote:where did all this customization talk come from?? eco, normal and power mode FTW!! :) (which company did eye just steel that from??)

Autoweek magazine posed the question:
http://autoweek.com/article/technology/ ... dailydrive
ewe no howe eye feal aboot the media pudding thaws in two are heads, know??

F eye din beef or nao eye no.
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Re: Let the Chef be the Chief?

Postby Rope-Pusher » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:33 pm

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"Eco is like being stuck in deep mud. Comfort is fine for short jaunts in traffic around town. Sport is merely a suggestion of performance."
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